blackbackedjackal

Vegan or not vegan, your common enemy is capitalism. The company selling you vegan shit is likely owned by a larger company that uses animal products. Please learn class consciousness and fight the real problem.

blackbackedjackal

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fakeblondeabigailhobbs-deactiva

these are still literally meat processing plants that are spreading covid the most like...where do you think vegan meat substitutes are processed. this isn’t the gotcha that it seems like. the meat substitutes made by big meat companies are an attempt to cash in on a market these companies don’t currently reach and are also not the main sources of meat substitutes for vegans the way that beyond meat and impossible foods (not owned by big meat companies!) are. also “vegan shit” is anything that isn’t meat or animal products (hate to shock you but you eat vegan food too) so like yes vegans are well aware that food cannot be sourced 100% ethically. but it’s still very clear that mass producing meat has profound health consequences. 

blackbackedjackal

fakeblondeabigailhobbs-deactiva

"#ya’ll (sic) like reaching huh?” 

it’s not reaching to point out the false equivalency here lmao. your original point being “the common enemy is capitalism” isn’t a bad one but if you make it using misinformation that’s a bad look xoxo 

blackbackedjackal

My point is capitalism is bad and fuck Tyson in particular. You can reach for a deeper meaning if you want but it's not there xoxo

shineyremains

The only time you’re going to get ethically sourced food is from a small, local farm, or growing it yourself. If you want something that doesn’t grow around you, you need to do the research and pay the shipping to get it from a small farm. Get it from anywhere else and you’re going to be inadvertently supporting the corporations doing the things you’re against. It doesn’t matter what company you *think* is doing good, 99.9% of the time they’re only in it for profit. Any and every corporation is going to use the cheapest methods to make their products, especially if they’re making vegan products. They want to make as much profit as possible and ethically sourcing stuff isn’t cheap. And I’m not just talking mega corporations. Any company is going to be like that. Anything you buy in a store that’s not literally a farm stand is in it for high profit. I work for a grocery distributor, all of those vegan/organic/etc etc products come from the same manufacturers as their counterparts. They put it in a different box or throw a sticker on it, and suddenly sales are up because people believe the things they’re told without actually looking.

TL;DR Capitalism runs everything. Buy local.

alithiasigma

Eating eggs and bacon from a local farm and butchery sourcing from a local farm is always going to be more ethical and more environmentally friendly than eating any vegetable shipped to a supermarket. 

A lot of vegans who are vegans for the sake of the environment or for ethical reasons don’t realize that. 

Working conditions at every level of the commercial food industry suck. Commercial meat products are environmentally damaging and unethical due to how the industry works, but this is the same for vegetables and meat alternatives. Water use, pesticides, land use, water pollution, processing, packaging, and more are all things that, when managed by any large group that prioritizes profit over all else, are going to be damaging to the environment and the humans they employ. 

Can going vegan make a difference? Yes. But there are choices that need to be made beyond that.