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Do you think there is any connection or alliance between Christian fascism and fascist occultism? They seem to dislike each other pretty badly sometimes?

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leviathan-supersystem:

leviathan-supersystem:

eh, that’s all a matter of the material political conditions of the time. there’s always this ebb and flow with any social current, between admittance and enforcement (i hope i can come up with a better way to describe that dichotomy but that may be the best i can do) where any social current has this struggle within itself between it’s desire to expand, and it’s desire to enforce a certain incentive system- if it leans too hard toward enforcing it’s incentive system, everyone gets kicked out for failing to follow the rules and it shrinks to nothing, but if it prioritizes recruiting people over enforcing it’s rules it becomes meaningless. so social currents are always fluctuating between these poles, attempting to reach the right balance in order for the social current to survive, depending on the material conditions, which contradiction is antagonistic, etc.

in the period immediately prior to 2016 the far-right was shifted more in it’s cycle toward admittance- at this time you saw a great deal of synergy between christian fascists and occultist and atheist fascists, as well as a willingness to look the other way over things that, usually, the far right-would condemn. it was a brief window of time in which someone like milo yiannopoulos could gain the kind of profile he did.

anyways, after trumps election the ground shifted, and the cycle of that social current shifted hard from admittance to enforcement- massive crackdown on the non-christian alt-right, pressuring many involved to convert to christianity (see roosh v) also a massive crackdown on porn consumption (“cumbrain” became popular as a pejorative on the far-right around this time). milo being ousted from the far right marks the inflection point for when the cycle shifted from admittance to enforcement.

in turn, on the left the opposite shift occurred, and the cycle shifted from enforcement to admittance, precipitating the emergence of the “dirtbag left”- a not insignificant portion of whom are people who were loosely in the circle of the right-wing before the right-wing shifted from admittance to enforcement. see shoe0nhead, who was loosely in the periphery of the anti-sj right, until the right-wing shifted from admittance to enforcement and she came under fire for her vague sympathies toward mildly left-wing economics (see her former friend Sargon of Akkad’s campaign against her) pushing her out of the anti-sj right and into the arms of the left, which has, in turn, become more hospitable to her reactionary social views.

to be clear, i hope i haven’t given the impression that between the poles of admittance and enforcement that one of the two is “the good one”- they can both be bad in excess, and what is needed is a healthy interplay between these extremes that is responsive to the material conditions of the time. a shift too far toward admittance can result in actually harmful behavior being tolerated, which will both cause harm as well as repel people from the social current, defeating the entire purpose of shifting toward admittance in the first place- if a social current shifts toward admittance and then lets in a bunch of sex-pests who end up hurting innocent people and repelling more people than the number of people being brought in by shifting toward admittance, then that social current fucked up. the far-right’s shift toward enforcement came right around the time it was starting to run up against this exact problem, as it’s efforts to recruit incels, MRAs, and (supposed) PUAs into the far-right had started to cause them to have a mass-exodus of women, and in turn it’s embrace of anti-porn politics has been in part an attempt to win back over women from right-wing backgrounds who shifted toward terf/swerf style feminism after being alienated from right-wing politics by misogyny. (and given their transphobia terfs are obviously easier to recruit back into right-wing politics than other feminists who are originally from right-wing backgrounds)

edit: oh yeah the original question. christian fascists and occult fascists got along great around like 2014/2015, and were willing to set aside their differences in order to be racist together, but now not so much. they’re still being racist obviously, but more separately.

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oh yeah it’s a whole Thing going on right now:

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so the long and short of it is that he’s pulling a guilt by association thing, since shoe0nhead and anthony fantano both appeared on a 24 hour charity livestream that also included someone who made a joke about violence toward cops. notably, the person who actually made the joke isn’t mentioned in either the title or description, so it’s clear that the real issue for him isn’t what was actually said, but rather his sense of betrayal that his former racism buddies weren’t willing to reject free healthcare in order to continue being racist together.

the sheer degree to which it pattern-matches to the kind of Callout Culture tropes that sargon until recently would have pretended to be above is striking, but not altogether surprising. if a social current- or a person acting as a representative of a social current- claims to be a place where you can “say or do whatever you want!” just know that is an utter lie, a brief illusion which will come crashing down as soon as the social current shifts from it’s admittance phase to it’s enforcement phase. the poor suckers who actually buy the hype get fucked the hardest, though they’re so stupid that you can’t really feel bad for them. like you can tell Milo really bought into all that bullshit about how right-wing social spaces were a place where you could say whatever you wanted, anything, anything at all, and then he decided to test the limits of that, and, whelp,

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