Oh Anon - we’re so sorry to hear how objectively awful your parents are. Tbh, if they’re buying into QAnon bullshittery, they’re probably waaay too far gone to have a rational conversation with. You’re just never going to convince them about reality if they’re so invested in conspiracy theory paranoia they’ve fallen down the QAnon hole and you might be better off figuring out how to cut your losses and get some distance between you and them.
First and assuming they’re not too far gone, let’s talk about how to talk to your parents. We’re gonna guess that you’ve tried arguing with them and debating them and haven’t been able to get them to budge. Instead, we’d recommend learning about active listening methods.
2) Listen to what people you disagree with say and deepen your understanding with follow-up inquiries.
3) Reflect back their perspective by summarizing their answers and noting underlying emotions.
4) Agree before disagreeing by naming ways in which you agree with their point of view.
5) Share your perspective by telling a story about a personal experience.
This is also what you learn when you take any sort of training on “active listening.” To practice, Tamerius has created an “angry uncle bot”that coaches you through responses to a Fox News-loving uncle’s rants over the Thanksgiving Day table.
OK? Now let’s look at what to say to your ‘rentals:
In your conversation, your parents might say that terrorism = violence or threats of violence designed to achieve a political goal. The immediate problem with that definition is that a LOT of people and groups your parents wouldn’t consider terrorists are terrorists as per that definition. Any police force or military. The Founding Fathers (assuming you’re in the U.S.). The combatants in any war in history. So very clearly, this definition is way too broad to be useful.
But let’s say that in your conversation with your parents you confirm that their main objection to antifa is terrorism, which would mean their main concern is terrorist violence. There’s good reason to be concerned with terrorist violence in 2020, but maybe if your parents are truly concerned about about terrorist violence, their concern should be focused on those committing the largest amount and the most severe terrorist violence. So who is doing the lion’s share of the worst forms of violent terrorism in the U.S.?
Let’s put all of that violence, which surely your parents would consider terrorism up in comparison with “antifa terrorism,” shall we?
How many confirmed violent attacks have antifa committed this year or last year or any year? How many people have antifa killed? How many people were seriously injured by antifa violence?
Or, you could take the tactic of asking the question: “if antifa are terrorists, what do they want?” It’s pretty clear to us as anti-fascists that what we want is to stop fascism. IT’S IN OUR BLOODY NAME FFS!!! Now, why would we want to stop fascism?
Fascists want to take groups they don’t like (disabled people, LGBTQ+ people, racialized people, religious minorities, immigrants, women, etc.) and make sure they are either subservient to them, deported to somewhere else, or exterminated. Anti-fascists want to stop them from doing that, so the people fascists target can, you know, exist and live their lives without fear of persecution and death.
Because fascists fetishize violence and because (as we’ve seen above) fascists commit a huge chunk of violence to try to achieve their aims, anti-fascists some times have to defend themselves and their communities physically. But the level of restraint and the magnitude of the violence committed by anti-fascists, and the reasons why makes any comparison with fascist violence or terrorism generally a false equivalence logical fallacy - something we suspect your parents are particularly vulnerable to falling for.
Going back to the active listening thing, maybe this starts off with the question: if your parents are right and antifa = terrorists, what is their goal? What are they trying to achieve and what evidence do we have to know what they want? One good source of evidence would be what anti-fascists like us having been fucking saying for years and years and years.
Alright, we hope that’s a bit helpful to you. But if all else fails, you could always just say fuck it and leave these lying around the house:
Capitalism will put the bill on your grave and harass your grieving family until they pay
One of my cousins passed away unexpectedly at the age of 35, and had been paying back a loan from the bank. About two weeks after his death, my great aunt received a statement from the bank (his mail was being delivered to her house) about a late payment. She called the bank and explained the situation and the only thing a manager could say was “Well, that’s unfortunate. We can arrange so payments will resume in 30 days, that should be enough time to have already paid for the other arrangements.”
On top of the unexpected $10,000 funeral, cremation and burial bill, my aunt had to finish paying my uncle’s $5,000 loan. She’s a disabled retiree, on a fixed income, and could barely afford to pay for her insulin for diabetes. She nearly lost her home of more than 40 years. Fuck the system.
She didn’t need to pay. When people die, their debts are not their family’s responsibility.
In fact, it is outright illegal to try and collect those debts from a person who didn’t cosign the loan and isn’t executing the will.
Banks count on people not knowing that last comment so that they can still get money
They really do.
My great-grandmother had her identity stolen before she died at the age of 93, and thousands of charges were racked up on credit cards in her name. After she passed away, they called my mother to try and collect. My mom laughed at them, and told them: “She’s dead, good luck collecting.” The credit card asked my mother, “Don’t you want to clear your grandmother’s debts? Don’t you want to clear her good name?” My mom laughed at them again. “No,” she said. “Because a 90 year old wasn’t watching porn with those credit cards, and her name is fine. Don’t give credit cards to old women likely to pass away soon. This is on you.”
Which is how I learned as a young child to always question collection agents, and to never pay off debts that aren’t your own. They often can’t even collect that money from the estate, if there is one, depending on how you write your will and what kind of account the money was kept in.
DO NOT EVER PAY OFF DEBTS THAT AREN’T YOUR OWN.
If a loved one of yours dies and bill collectors (credit cards, loans, etc etc) start calling you off the hook and request that you pay off their debts, tell them in no uncertain terms to go fuck themselves.
The reason being is that the moment you give them a single penny, that debt is now on YOU because you’ve now agreed to pay it off.
Do not agree to pay off their debt. Do not pass go, do not give them $200.
Boosting this to let people know that if any of these greedy little dog-fuckers start harassing them to pay off a relatives debt the correct thing to do is just tell them to piss off and not pay them a single thing
And that there is NOTHING they can do if you do this
Never, ever, EVER pay so much as a single cent on a debt owed by someone who’s passed away. You make even a single payment and that’s considered you accepting responsibility for the debt, and they can then legally expect you to repay the whole thing.
They’re like vampires - they can’t collect unless you let them in. Don’t invite them in.
DO NOT EVER PAY OFF DEBTS THAT AREN’T YOUR OWN.
DO NOT EVER PAY OFF DEBTS THAT AREN’T YOUR OWN.
DO NOT EVER PAY OFF DEBTS THAT AREN’T YOUR OWN.
DO NOT EVER PAY OFF DEBTS THAT AREN’T YOUR OWN.
and DON’T consolidate your student loans with your significant other! if something happens to them you are legally on the hook for that money!
A type of plastic can be made from Milk. The resulting product is odorless, insoluble in water, biodegradable, antiallergenic, antistatic, and virtually non-flammable.
This will make a simple casein plastic similar to Play-doh that will harden after a day. It’s basically super cheese.
The buttons in the original image are made from galalith, a more refined and stable form of casein plastic. To get galalith, you need to soak your casein in a solution of 5% formaldehyde in water for a very long time- if you’re making a sheet that’s an inch thick, it needs to soak for a year. At that point you have a lovely hardened plastic that you can’t really mold, but you can carve and dye it, and it has all the cool properties listed above.
@systlin@solarpunkactionweek we could and should be converting the inedible portions of the US surplus cheese stockpile into biodegradable, ethical plastic. The fact that this isn’t already being done is probably a sign of sabotage by Big Oil.
If you treat your simple casein differently, you can make fiber from it:
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