It legitimately wasn’t a coup; Morales wanted the military to attack the protestors (led in part by trade unions) who were upset about Morales tampering with the elections and ignoring the constitutional term limits. The military said no, they wouldn’t put down the protests, so Morales lost power.
the “protesters” were engaging in massive arson less than a day after the results [link]. moreover there has yet to be any credible evidence presented of electoral tampering. also he didn’t “ignore” terms limits, the supreme court had made a decision to alter the laws regarding term limits- the limit to 2 terms only was in place between 2009-2016. also the military when they betrayed Evo immediately joined in the wave of arson and violence, as well as kidnapping and threatening people associated with MAS, which was what instigated Morales to step down to prevent further violence- you know, a coup. you are a blatant liar and you should be ashamed of yourself.
hey nice job blocking me you piece of shit.
at any rate, protesting is one thing, and by all means, if the people who voted for the referendum wanted to peacefully protest, they had every right to do so. they do not have a right to immediately start setting shit on fire, which is what they decided to do. oh, but i guess they just got ~carried away~.
i have read the OAS report, and i found the evidence extremely flimsy. have you? or have you read the more in-depth (and unbiased) report from CEPR, which found no evidence of tampering? [link]
the claim that the military “mostly stepped aside” is your most flagrant lie yet- even the people who endorse the coup acknowledge the police and military joined the opposition, and set about arresting electoral officials and MAS-affiliated politicians, and are currently enforcing the will of the illegitimate coup government that they put in place. and hey, here’s some footage of them doing just that, and violently suppressing the opponents of the coup:
THIS is what you’re supporting. THIS is what you’re defending. who’s the one who’s really being an “authoritarian shill”, bootlicker?
anyways unblock me you coward.
I didn’t block you, weirdo. And you seem to be laboring under the incorrect notion that I support the new government.
I agree, the protestors didn’t have the right to immediately set things on fire. I’m not arguing that they did.
I don’t think the OAS evidence was all that flimsy, and the CEPR report doesn’t address everything in it.
The military mostly stepped aside until it was clear they would have to attack a bunch of protestors to keep Morales in power. The police joined first and started arresting people, which (I believe) they should not have done. After that, yes, the military intervened, to keep pro- and anti-government groups from fighting. But they didn’t take power and it was their inaction that caused Morales to lose power. That’s not a coup.
No, I don’t support protestors being beaten, on either side. Just because I don’t think it’s a coup doesn’t mean I condone what the police are doing, so you can fuck off with that argument.
Edit: I’m not going to keep interacting with someone who keeps misrepresenting my views, so respond if you want but just know you’ll be yelling impotently into the void.
so you think you can just unblock me and pretend you never had me blocked? absolutely pathetic. i do appreciate that you unblocked me, but your rampant dishonesty has been noted.
you’re such a complete failure that even your own source acknowleges that the police and military had sided with the opposition, stating in no uncertain terms that they “sided with the protesters and demanded he resign.” that’s not “stepping aside,” that’s a fucking coup.
they’re not neutrally trying “to keep pro- and anti-government groups from fighting,” they have been overtly on the side of the opposition and have been brutally repressing MAS supporters, as shown by the video I posted.
if you don’t endorse what the police are doing, maybe you should stop lying in their defense, bootlicker.
oh, you’re as fan of the OAS report? name 5 of their albums things the CEPR report didn’t address.
1) Observe: the seasons, the weather, your local climate. What other people are growing nearby, when they grow it. Go to farmer’s markets and see what they are offering. If you live in the US, you can check your state extension service for locally-relevant and scientifically-backed information - most of it free (taxpayer funded).
2) Gather / Scrounge / Dumpster dive / swap / barter: containers, seeds, potting soil, access to water, sunlight. Rent tools or buy yourself a few basic things.
3) Grow. Observe how things grow. Take pictures and notes. Learn. Kill some plants and figure out how and why. Do it again and again and again. This is a learning process. It takes time.
4) Be social - Talk to people online and in person about what you are growing. Learn and teach and what you have learned.
Medium / hobby farm / homesteading level:
5) Gather education / money. Figure out a way to support yourself.
6) rent or buy land to grow more stuff. Expand what you are growing.
7) grow enough that you can feed your family. preserve, can, ferment, freeze what cannot be used immediately.
8) own tools and equipment. Learn how to repair them and/or maintain them
9) Be social - get to know neighbors and local community better. barter and swap, so you get your neighbor’s badass fire jelly and they get your badass fermented hot sauce. It’s okay to have specialties.
Advanced capitalist farming:
10) thanks to your education / good job you can pull a bank loan and also talk with your government for farming grants. You have a business plan, a 5 year plan, and a 10 year plan.
11) you buy land, almost as much as you can afford. You know how to grow things well. Your land is located near enough to your market or buyer that you can make the logistics of shipping work.
12) you buy good equipment, that you also learn how to repair and maintain or you know someone you can call if you need to
13) you know what your local market wants and you grow them that. you have a unique brand and a marketing strategy. You know that the hardest part isn’t actually growing or raising or producing, but actually selling those things. You know how to sell.
14) Be social - You have also networked and made friends with other farmers, who are now your local community. You know your county extension agents or government workers who can help you if there’s an emergency. You know local chefs and restaurants and health food stores to sell stuff too. You know the subscribers to your CSA. You shake a lot of hands and hope that this year you make enough money to invest more in the farm itself, it could use a refrigerated truck. You go to meetings about the best land management practices and keep up with how the latest Farm Bill is going through Congress.
15). What you cannot sell and cannot eat you give to your workers, and if they do not want it, you donate to your community food bank or maybe your compost. You try to pay and house and feed and teach your workers as best you can. You probably don’t have health insurance and vacations only exist in winter. You sleep well at night because you earn an honest living and also because you are fucking exhausted, except when it doesn’t rain / it floods / the harvest fails and then you have insomnia. You realize that farming is just a very expensive way to gamble, because many of the reasons for success or failure are beyond your control. No wonder people sell and get out. Your back or knees probably hurt.
16) You know the real dirty secrets. The large farms are family farms, but they are inherited. The relationships with the banks for the generous bank loans are too. You REALLY hope that people come support your little farm stand / local farmers market / buy CSA shares / visit your pumpkin patch, because you don’t have access to those things. Your family is (eventually) proud of you, and also deeply confused by your life choices.
17) You run a successful business thanks to your own sweat, blood, and tears - years of sacrifice and back-breaking labor. Education and planning. The nightmare that is doing your own accounting. You have a slot at the best farmer’s market around and people in your local community know and respect you. Online, people who have never stepped foot on a farm tell you everything that you are doing “wrong”.
Terror Firmer will be released on Blu-ray on February 11 via Troma Entertainment. The 20th anniversary edition of the 1999 horror-comedy is a two-disc set.
Lloyd Kaufman (The Toxic Avenger) directs from a script by Patrick Cassidy (Citizen Toxie: The Toxic Avenger IV) and Douglas Buck (The Theatre Bizarre). Will Keenan, Alyce LaTourelle, Trent Haaga, Debbie Rochon, Ron Jeremy, Lemmy Kilmister, and Kaufman himself star.
Terror Firmer will be presented in its uncensored director’s cut. Special features are listed below.
